Comments on: IDEA #20 – Finding the Employee Leak http://blog.stevepoland.com/idea-20-finding-the-employee-leak/ web entrepreneur | obsessed music fan | b-lo forever! Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:24:06 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Steve Poland http://blog.stevepoland.com/idea-20-finding-the-employee-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Steve Poland Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:36:53 +0000 http://stevepoland.com/?p=76#comment-138 Someone's created it -- Orbious -- http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/orbious-will-make-forwarding-confidential-documents-dangerous/ Someone’s created it — Orbious — http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/orbious-will-make-forwarding-confidential-documents-dangerous/

]]> By: Eric Nagel http://blog.stevepoland.com/idea-20-finding-the-employee-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Eric Nagel Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:01:32 +0000 http://stevepoland.com/?p=76#comment-137 Andrew, Yes, you're right... it'll work once. But if you could manage to watermark the text somehow... this technology could not only be used in corporate press releases, but also in government and even file sharing. If you could watermark an mp3 file, then the user that has rights to it could use it wherever he likes - but if it's watermarked and ends up shared on the web, you can link it back to him. Andrew,

Yes, you’re right… it’ll work once. But if you could manage to watermark the text somehow… this technology could not only be used in corporate press releases, but also in government and even file sharing.

If you could watermark an mp3 file, then the user that has rights to it could use it wherever he likes – but if it’s watermarked and ends up shared on the web, you can link it back to him.

]]> By: AndrewFromFly http://blog.stevepoland.com/idea-20-finding-the-employee-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-136 AndrewFromFly Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:02:17 +0000 http://stevepoland.com/?p=76#comment-136 Yes, but then TechCrunch could just alter the number of spaces after each . again before they post it. It'll either correspond to some innocent guy's version who didn't leak it. Or it'll correspond to none of them. Yes, but then TechCrunch could just alter the number of spaces after each . again before they post it. It’ll either correspond to some innocent guy’s version who didn’t leak it. Or it’ll correspond to none of them.

]]> By: Eric Nagel http://blog.stevepoland.com/idea-20-finding-the-employee-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Eric Nagel Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:04:08 +0000 http://stevepoland.com/?p=76#comment-135 9,800 text changes isn't that hard. You can even start with # of spaces after a . I learned 2 in high school, so that's what I still use, but many people use 1 or don't care. So, if there are 4 sentences (3 breaks between them) that makes the following possibilities: (# of spaces) 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 8, 2^3. So for 9,800 combinations, 2^x >= 9800... x is at least 14. So using spaces between sentences alone, you'd need 15 sentences to do this. BUT, you're right... once they caught on, you have to think of another method. 9,800 text changes isn’t that hard.

You can even start with # of spaces after a . I learned 2 in high school, so that’s what I still use, but many people use 1 or don’t care. So, if there are 4 sentences (3 breaks between them) that makes the following possibilities:

(# of spaces)
1 1 1
1 1 2
1 2 1
1 2 2
2 1 1
2 1 2
2 2 1
2 2 2

8, 2^3. So for 9,800 combinations, 2^x >= 9800… x is at least 14.

So using spaces between sentences alone, you’d need 15 sentences to do this.

BUT, you’re right… once they caught on, you have to think of another method.

]]> By: Eric Nagel http://blog.stevepoland.com/idea-20-finding-the-employee-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Eric Nagel Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:46:07 +0000 http://stevepoland.com/?p=76#comment-134 For a brief while, I was working on something similar... spiders (Google) love unique content, but (gray area) affiliates don't like writing it. If you could scrape content (from Wikipedia) and alter it just enough so it still made sense, but was "unique", that'd be a gold mine. From Lost is an Emmy and Golden Globe award-winning serial drama television series... To Lost, a Golden Globe and Emmy award-winning serial drama,... However, I gave up. There's no easy way to do this... even with a synonyms database. For a brief while, I was working on something similar… spiders (Google) love unique content, but (gray area) affiliates don’t like writing it. If you could scrape content (from Wikipedia) and alter it just enough so it still made sense, but was “unique”, that’d be a gold mine.

From
Lost is an Emmy and Golden Globe award-winning serial drama television series…

To
Lost, a Golden Globe and Emmy award-winning serial drama,…

However, I gave up. There’s no easy way to do this… even with a synonyms database.

]]> By: Matt http://blog.stevepoland.com/idea-20-finding-the-employee-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-133 Matt Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:13:53 +0000 http://stevepoland.com/?p=76#comment-133 Funny, had this idea when f*dcompany.com was at it's height back in the first boom/crash. The english language is by far robust enough to "watermark" a document this size, contractions, synonyms etc. However the problem with the adoption was simply there is a lot of time invested in the language of these memos and to have that modified ad hoc by a filter simply unacceptable to most people I talked to....nonetheless a good an intresting idea. On a side note, awesome blog, great ideas that provide a catalyst to others! Funny, had this idea when f*dcompany.com was at it’s height back in the first boom/crash. The english language is by far robust enough to “watermark” a document this size, contractions, synonyms etc. However the problem with the adoption was simply there is a lot of time invested in the language of these memos and to have that modified ad hoc by a filter simply unacceptable to most people I talked to….nonetheless a good an intresting idea.

On a side note, awesome blog, great ideas that provide a catalyst to others!

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